tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826049157205598760.post293549906599652755..comments2024-03-20T12:46:10.513-07:00Comments on The Colorist: Knowledge & ArtCasey Klahnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08020906666248399435noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826049157205598760.post-24896920831502993472008-12-28T11:41:00.000-08:002008-12-28T11:41:00.000-08:00Hi Casey, hope you're feeling much better now. Exc...Hi Casey, hope you're feeling much better now. <BR/><BR/>Excellent thread you've got here and the comments were thought provoking. It all makes me feel more confident. Having not gone through an art school I oft feel incomplete. <BR/><BR/>Life's a continuous learning process and what matters most is what lies inside and not what a piece of paper says.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826049157205598760.post-12302423193446309032008-11-16T05:11:00.000-08:002008-11-16T05:11:00.000-08:00So sorry to hear you're not well Casey -- Feel bet...So sorry to hear you're not well Casey -- Feel better soon! I like what you're doing with the colorist blog in the meantime and look forward to more pastels when you're up to it!Eden Compton Studiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08408901151410400904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826049157205598760.post-22855339583574715762008-11-14T09:43:00.000-08:002008-11-14T09:43:00.000-08:00Mel, are you an art student or an artist. It's jus...Mel, are you an art student or an artist. It's just words after all, I suppose.<BR/>Casey, I hope you get well, and go easy on yourself. I'm so happy that you find time to maintain this blog, even if you can't pait at present.<BR/>I think because I'm making art, nit just reading about it, that I consider myself an artist, not an art student. Though I am constantly learning. I do know that I'm no art teacher.Yellowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05975849028363084985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826049157205598760.post-66601555980206636512008-11-13T09:33:00.000-08:002008-11-13T09:33:00.000-08:00I like your comments, Yellow. You can be a "studen...I like your comments, Yellow. You can be a "student of art" without being a "proper art student" if you study art yourself, by looking, by reading, and by <I>doing</I> in an effort to improve. Of course the converse is true - you can be a "proper art student" but not make any effort to learn or improve. Going every day to a building called "college" is not what makes a student. <I>Studying</I> is what makes a student. Hey! I'm an art student after all!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826049157205598760.post-1166533316896536932008-11-12T07:00:00.000-08:002008-11-12T07:00:00.000-08:00Hey, Eden. Things are very tight around here, wit...Hey, Eden. Things are very tight around here, with an upcoming operation (my third in a sequence) and chronic pain being my problem.<BR/><BR/>So, I spend more time on regular daily activities and none in the studio, sadly. I hope to be better in a few months - as the recovery time on these operations has proven to be lengthy.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I'll try to post something at pastelsblog, but it will be thin for a while.Casey Klahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08020906666248399435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826049157205598760.post-13352172530717364492008-11-12T05:08:00.000-08:002008-11-12T05:08:00.000-08:00Excellent thread Casey! (I was wondering what hap...Excellent thread Casey! (I was wondering what happened to you and then realized I should check out the colorist!) I have learned so much more over the years than I ever learned in college. I think the artist's "spirit" and development really comes down to feeding a deep curiosity about the places, people and ideas one encounters in the course of a lifetime. You really can't teach that in a lecture or book, in my opinion. (FYI - the Van Gogh nocturne exhibit at MOMA in New York is excellent if you get a chance to get there!)Eden Compton Studiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08408901151410400904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826049157205598760.post-28139370856246059002008-11-11T13:22:00.000-08:002008-11-11T13:22:00.000-08:00I suffered much in college, too, Steph. My grades...I suffered much in college, too, Steph. My grades revealed a troubled youth becoming a man. <BR/><BR/>Tellingly, I have gotten perfect to near perfect scores on corporate tests, Army tests and courses, professional training courses and the like. Go figure. I think maturity helps tremendously with learning.<BR/><BR/>But, I highly value those formative times at college, where learning to think was a hallmark. Now I work in a field that I didn't study in college, but I think that's the case for most people with a liberal arts education.<BR/><BR/>Deborah, I can only imagine how your advanced degree helped prepare you for today. I am always leaning back on my time in the climbing community, and my time in the Army as formative years equally as important as my student years.Casey Klahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08020906666248399435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826049157205598760.post-34055694173118714732008-11-11T10:44:00.000-08:002008-11-11T10:44:00.000-08:00Lots of good insights here, Casey. Although I have...Lots of good insights here, Casey. Although I have a BFA, most of what I feel is really important to my art making came long after. And oddly, the analytical, critical thinking skills I learned in law school have been just as valuable in my art career.Deborah Parishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242296435365350267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826049157205598760.post-84924071140749509122008-11-11T10:19:00.000-08:002008-11-11T10:19:00.000-08:00This is such a fantastic subject to get one's teet...This is such a fantastic subject to get one's teeth into. Van Gogh was a fantastic student of art, in that he practiced, and looked, and evaluated what he'd done, and made changes and kept at it. He was dogged in his persuit of re-creating what he felt about his subjects. He also studied, receiving prints from his brother of Japanese scenes which were BIG at the time, and he had a collection of Dutch Masters which he constantly referred to. I have two postcadrs which I bought at the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam, both of which are drawings of an old man sat huddled in a chair. In these two studis it is evident Van Gogh was refining the composition and rendition of the posture, clothing, the hands, the chair. O I have no idea if these are the only two studies he did of this subject, or if there are smaller sketches somewhere. But I draw great reassurance from the similarities between his learning techniques and that which I myself adopt.<BR/>I myself had a mixed time at university. I think that I would have benfit returning as a mature student with more motivation. There were other distractions while I was there, aged 18 ti 21.<BR/>I look at my online colleagues as fellow students and mentors. I work in an isolated way due to my circumstances, but the internet and blogging has provided great support to me.<BR/>Formal education is just another path, and isn't the path which leads to the end. People get on this journey from different starting points, and take different routes. Dead ends, blind detours, fast-tracks. They exist in the art world as I suppose in all other worlds. I suppose if you don't like the road you're on, you can get off it and find another. I don't think I'd like a map, or too much advice, as I like the serendipity of it all. I just wish I had more time to follow these meandering roads.Yellowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05975849028363084985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826049157205598760.post-5905290710591737582008-11-11T09:44:00.000-08:002008-11-11T09:44:00.000-08:00Good to meet you, Melanie, and thank you for readi...Good to meet you, Melanie, and thank you for reading my blog.<BR/><BR/>This is a well stated comment about the continuation of learning after college. I feel this way exactly about my own liberal arts degree, and as a matter of fact I am just as proud of the courses and studies I have made since my college days.<BR/><BR/>Do I wish that I had formal art studies in my resume? Yes. Am I sorry that I don't have an art degree? No.Casey Klahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08020906666248399435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5826049157205598760.post-1937898998543624032008-11-11T09:16:00.000-08:002008-11-11T09:16:00.000-08:00I was interested in your comments about the value ...I was interested in your comments about the value (or otherwise) of going to art school. I'm a university lecturer - not an art lecturer, I'm very much a beginning artist. I lecture in sociology and psychology but actually what I teach doesn't matter. Often my students seem to expect me to fill their heads with a bunch of stuff they need to know, then test them to see if it "took", then that's the end of the process of getting a degree. But it's not like that at all. It's not my job to teach them what to think. It's my job to teach them how to think. When my job is done, theirs has just begun. On the day that they graduate they should be equipped (with any luck) to go out and find new information, to evaluate it and then to make up their own minds about it. The purpose of studying at university is not to get a scroll you can hang on the wall. I don't know where my own scroll is. It's not hanging on the wall, I may have lost it. It really doesn't matter at all because I still have the skills I learned at university, the skills of thinking, of evaluating information and turning data into knowledge. In fact since I graduated I have honed those skills still further. I hope my lecturers would be proud of me as I am proud of all the students who left my classes better thinkers than when they arrived, whether they graduated or not.<BR/><BR/>Is that something like what you were talking about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com